Lebron to sign extention!!!!!!!

alleykat · 06-24-2009, 04:47 PM

Source-you'll read about it july 1,2009
its over dreamers its freakin over !!!!
Their going hard after / shack/boozer.
and can sign two and will
(serbiak and veljo off the books
they are also taking trade Vajero and picks for Bosh!
Yeah whop whop whop.
Now walsh can do something except sell us on this 2010 shaiat
get to work and make real moves for real players fat boy.

Some of us ain't accepting another 25 win season.

meanwhile in Cav land

Shack
BOSH OR BOOZER
LEBRON
WILLIAMS
WEST

eastflatknick · 06-24-2009, 04:52 PM

Why would we read about it July 1st? Is this a prediction or did you hear it somewhere?

Jara Millz · 06-24-2009, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alleykat

Source-you'll read about it july 1,2009
its over dreamers its freakin over !!!!
Their going hard after / shack/boozer.
and can sign two and will
(serbiak and veljo off the books
they are also taking trade Vajero and picks for Bosh!
Yeah whop whop whop.
Now walsh can do something except sell us on this 2010 shaiat
get to work and make real moves for real players fat boy.

Some of us ain't accepting another 25 win season.

meanwhile in Cav land

Shack
BOSH OR BOOZER
LEBRON
WILLIAMS
WEST

Lol you really can't expect us to believe this. No source Varajo and picks? WHAT PICKS LOL!!??!!

starks4life · 06-24-2009, 04:55 PM

I have lexis nexis and westlaw, legal and media databases, and there is nothing written in one single solitary media outlet that confirms this.

More importantly the word extension isn't even spelled right. So I'll wait until this is confirmed.

eastflatknick · 06-24-2009, 04:58 PM

haha...I love how you whipped out the Westlaw and Lexis...that's classic.

Jara Millz · 06-24-2009, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by starks4life

I have lexis nexis and westlaw, legal and media databases, and there is nothing written in one single solitary media outlet that confirms this.

More importantly the word extension isn't even spelled right. So I'll wait until this is confirmed.

Seriously though why is the class of 2010 so contingent on one player. I would be fine with Amare and Dwade or Bosh and Joe Johnson... There are so many different options.

This website has really opened up my eyes. Walsh gets a team that is terrible, overpaid and going no where. Somehow the team does better then the year before, he gets rid of a lot of big price tags and bad attitudes, and has us financially flexible and somehow people still aren't satisfied. I mean what more do you want? Does Carlos Boozer make us a Championship caliber team? Do you think it might make sense to wait and continue to move forward to grab some of the best players of our generation? I really thought this stuff was no brainier material but apparently you have to win a championship every year if your the NY Yankees opps I mean Knicks..

RoboNate · 06-24-2009, 06:49 PM

lol @ starks........that was kat's spelling mistake, not from an article.

Jonny B · 06-24-2009, 07:36 PM

1. I didn't believe you for even a half second.
2. Why would you be happy about that? You call yourself a Knicks fan, but seem to cheer more for the Cavs.
3. It's mathemetically impossible, and I'll type this slowly this time to be sure you understand it. This is assuming that Ben Wallace retires and his salary comes off the books.
Lebron James - 17 million WITHOUT an extension. With an extension, it's closer to 20 million, but for the sake of plausibility, let's just keep the figure at 17 million.
Mo Williams - 9.3 Million. Total now at 26.3 million. Are you still with me???
Daniel Gibson - 4.5 million. Total is now 30.8 million, or roughly 31 million.
Those are the ONLY players under the cap for 2010. The cap total is expected to be around 60 million, leaving Cleveland roughly 29 million under the cap. IF Lebron signs an extension, it leaves Cleveland at about 24 million under the salary cap with only three players under contract. They must put together a roster of 15 players. If they go REALLY cheap and only sign a bunch of CBA players to contracts worth just a million per year, they will spend 10 million just filling out the roster. This leaves Cleveland with only 15 million per year, or enough for ONE max player. Shaq is going to want 10 million per. Bosh is going to want 15 million per. Boozer is going to also want 15 million per. Let's say, for the sake of arguement, that Shaq comes cheaply at 8 million to finish his career on top, and Bosh signs and trades. IF Bosh sign and trades, he is going to get about 20 million per year, because Toronto can sign him for more money just like Cleveland can with Lebron. Those two players will be an additional 30 million per year. I again refer you to the figure of 15 million in cap room. EVEN IF Cleveland decided to only have five players on the team, they would STILL be a million bucks over the salary cap. Can we PLEASE put this to bed already? The fact is that Cleveland can extend Lebron and bring in ONE major free agent IF they allow Varejao to walk for nothing. They have NO young talent and they have no future. This is the reason that Lebron will leave Cleveland in 2010. I don't know if he will come to NY, but he will leave Cleveland.
Conversely, NY has currently committed to 23.5 million in salaries for Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler, Gallinari and Jared Jeffries.If NY can somehow deal away Eddy and Jeffries,it will leave them at 5.4 million committed to Chandler and Gallo. Add two rookies from this draft, and NY will be on the hook for about 9.2 million. Assuming that NY trades Lee and Nate for young talent signed beyond 2010 like Bellini and Oden, they could be on the hook for as much as 18.3 million. This would account for a roster of six young talented players compared to Clevelands three players at 30 million. If NY cannot deal Jeffries and Curry, the worst case scenario is that they are on the hook for 35 million for 2010, with enough cap room in 2011 to bring in another max player like Carmello Anthony, but I digress. NY would be 25 million UNDER the salary cap with a roster of 9 players. If they give Lebron the max of 15 per season, it leaves NY still an additional 10 million under the cap in 2010. Assuming that another quality player will sign on in 2010 for 10 million per year for the chance to win in the greatest basketball city in the world, NY is in great shape. Let's assume that Donnie finds a taker for Curry or Jeffries. NY now has a roster of Gallo, Chandler, two rookies from this year and two young players gained in trades for Lee and Nate. NY would also have enough for two max players if they deal Jeffries and two max players PLUS a 5 million dollar veteran who wants to win a championship (Nash) for next season.
So, IN CONCLUSION, I ask you ONE LAST TIME, IF YOU ARE LEBRON JAMES, WHICH SCENARIO GIVES YOU THE BEST SHOT AT WINNING MULTIPLE NBA CHAMPIONSHIPS??? CLEVELAND AND THEIR FIVE MAN ROSTER, OR THE NEW YORK KNICKS???

did you get all that?

eastflatknick · 06-24-2009, 10:28 PM

I still think the Cavs have more cap room....because I have to assume no one is taking Curry and jeffries...and no matter what, LeBron can be offered more by Cleveland....I think you make a lot of favorable cap assumptions about the Knicks.

BUT, taht said. I still say that Kat, you made this up. You made this up and you're betting that it will happen...and if it doesn't, you'll just forget about it.

I actually think it's an OK bet. If I had to guess, I say 40% LeBron signs an extension, and that's being generous. Why would he limit himself?

even if he promised to resign for the Cavs, short of losing a leg literally, it's more lucrative for him to play this year out and resign for a new max deal (where he'll have more years of service to raise taht salary number).

The hype also surrounding 2010 is too great. If he signs with another team, he's a savior. If he re ups in 2010 with the Cavs, he's a hometown saint.

Forget it, I put the percentage at 20%.

Jonny B · 06-24-2009, 10:36 PM

I made no exceptions. If anything, I was conservative in my estimates. Even IF NY doesn't trade Jeffries or Curry, they still will have at least 25 million in cap room in 2010. If they don't deal Lee and Nate for young talent, they will have about 30 million in 2010 and another 17 million in 2011. Those are the cold, hard numbers. If the Cavs resign Lebron it's for 20 million per year. If he leaves to NY as a free agent, it's only 15 million per. That's in the CBA so that teams have an advantage in keeping their players. I think that the real question you have to ask is, "Which team gives him the best shot at multiple titles?" Cleveland is an old team with old talent. NY is a young team with LOTS of young talent. Donnie is really trying to add as much young talent as possible this offseason.

06-24-2009, 04:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
alleykat Hall of Famer Member Since: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,743	Lebron to sign extention!!!!!!! Source-you'll read about it july 1,2009 its over dreamers its freakin over !!!! Their going hard after / shack/boozer. and can sign two and will (serbiak and veljo off the books they are also taking trade Vajero and picks for Bosh! Yeah whop whop whop. Now walsh can do something except sell us on this 2010 shaiat get to work and make real moves for real players fat boy. Some of us ain't accepting another 25 win season. meanwhile in Cav land Shack BOSH OR BOOZER LEBRON WILLIAMS WEST Last edited by alleykat; 06-24-2009 at 04:50 PM.

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starks4life Superstar Member Since: Jun 2005 Posts: 1,943	I have lexis nexis and westlaw, legal and media databases, and there is nothing written in one single solitary media outlet that confirms this. More importantly the word extension isn't even spelled right. So I'll wait until this is confirmed. __________________ "What these dudes don't know is that I'm like 6'4, 240 lbs, all muscle, ex-navy seal...and I also have a black belt in jiu-jitsu. I would destroy any of these guys talking reckless on here with my bare hands..."

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RoboNate Hall of Famer Member Since: Oct 2005 Posts: 10,676	lol @ starks........that was kat's spelling mistake, not from an article. __________________ “He’s scary athletic,” D’Antoni said of Robinson. “Wherever I put him, whatever team I put him on, was the team that was winning.”

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06-24-2009, 04:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
eastflatknick Administrator Brooklyn Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 10,560	Why would we read about it July 1st? Is this a prediction or did you hear it somewhere?

06-24-2009, 04:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
eastflatknick Administrator Brooklyn Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 10,560	haha...I love how you whipped out the Westlaw and Lexis...that's classic.

06-24-2009, 07:36 PM	#8 (permalink)
Jonny B Superstar Maine Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 3,664	1. I didn't believe you for even a half second. 2. Why would you be happy about that? You call yourself a Knicks fan, but seem to cheer more for the Cavs. 3. It's mathemetically impossible, and I'll type this slowly this time to be sure you understand it. This is assuming that Ben Wallace retires and his salary comes off the books. Lebron James - 17 million WITHOUT an extension. With an extension, it's closer to 20 million, but for the sake of plausibility, let's just keep the figure at 17 million. Mo Williams - 9.3 Million. Total now at 26.3 million. Are you still with me??? Daniel Gibson - 4.5 million. Total is now 30.8 million, or roughly 31 million. Those are the ONLY players under the cap for 2010. The cap total is expected to be around 60 million, leaving Cleveland roughly 29 million under the cap. IF Lebron signs an extension, it leaves Cleveland at about 24 million under the salary cap with only three players under contract. They must put together a roster of 15 players. If they go REALLY cheap and only sign a bunch of CBA players to contracts worth just a million per year, they will spend 10 million just filling out the roster. This leaves Cleveland with only 15 million per year, or enough for ONE max player. Shaq is going to want 10 million per. Bosh is going to want 15 million per. Boozer is going to also want 15 million per. Let's say, for the sake of arguement, that Shaq comes cheaply at 8 million to finish his career on top, and Bosh signs and trades. IF Bosh sign and trades, he is going to get about 20 million per year, because Toronto can sign him for more money just like Cleveland can with Lebron. Those two players will be an additional 30 million per year. I again refer you to the figure of 15 million in cap room. EVEN IF Cleveland decided to only have five players on the team, they would STILL be a million bucks over the salary cap. Can we PLEASE put this to bed already? The fact is that Cleveland can extend Lebron and bring in ONE major free agent IF they allow Varejao to walk for nothing. They have NO young talent and they have no future. This is the reason that Lebron will leave Cleveland in 2010. I don't know if he will come to NY, but he will leave Cleveland. Conversely, NY has currently committed to 23.5 million in salaries for Eddy Curry, Wilson Chandler, Gallinari and Jared Jeffries.If NY can somehow deal away Eddy and Jeffries,it will leave them at 5.4 million committed to Chandler and Gallo. Add two rookies from this draft, and NY will be on the hook for about 9.2 million. Assuming that NY trades Lee and Nate for young talent signed beyond 2010 like Bellini and Oden, they could be on the hook for as much as 18.3 million. This would account for a roster of six young talented players compared to Clevelands three players at 30 million. If NY cannot deal Jeffries and Curry, the worst case scenario is that they are on the hook for 35 million for 2010, with enough cap room in 2011 to bring in another max player like Carmello Anthony, but I digress. NY would be 25 million UNDER the salary cap with a roster of 9 players. If they give Lebron the max of 15 per season, it leaves NY still an additional 10 million under the cap in 2010. Assuming that another quality player will sign on in 2010 for 10 million per year for the chance to win in the greatest basketball city in the world, NY is in great shape. Let's assume that Donnie finds a taker for Curry or Jeffries. NY now has a roster of Gallo, Chandler, two rookies from this year and two young players gained in trades for Lee and Nate. NY would also have enough for two max players if they deal Jeffries and two max players PLUS a 5 million dollar veteran who wants to win a championship (Nash) for next season. So, IN CONCLUSION, I ask you ONE LAST TIME, IF YOU ARE LEBRON JAMES, WHICH SCENARIO GIVES YOU THE BEST SHOT AT WINNING MULTIPLE NBA CHAMPIONSHIPS??? CLEVELAND AND THEIR FIVE MAN ROSTER, OR THE NEW YORK KNICKS??? did you get all that?

06-24-2009, 10:28 PM	#9 (permalink)
eastflatknick Administrator Brooklyn Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 10,560	I still think the Cavs have more cap room....because I have to assume no one is taking Curry and jeffries...and no matter what, LeBron can be offered more by Cleveland....I think you make a lot of favorable cap assumptions about the Knicks. BUT, taht said. I still say that Kat, you made this up. You made this up and you're betting that it will happen...and if it doesn't, you'll just forget about it. I actually think it's an OK bet. If I had to guess, I say 40% LeBron signs an extension, and that's being generous. Why would he limit himself? even if he promised to resign for the Cavs, short of losing a leg literally, it's more lucrative for him to play this year out and resign for a new max deal (where he'll have more years of service to raise taht salary number). The hype also surrounding 2010 is too great. If he signs with another team, he's a savior. If he re ups in 2010 with the Cavs, he's a hometown saint. Forget it, I put the percentage at 20%.

06-24-2009, 10:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
Jonny B Superstar Maine Member Since: May 2005 Posts: 3,664	I made no exceptions. If anything, I was conservative in my estimates. Even IF NY doesn't trade Jeffries or Curry, they still will have at least 25 million in cap room in 2010. If they don't deal Lee and Nate for young talent, they will have about 30 million in 2010 and another 17 million in 2011. Those are the cold, hard numbers. If the Cavs resign Lebron it's for 20 million per year. If he leaves to NY as a free agent, it's only 15 million per. That's in the CBA so that teams have an advantage in keeping their players. I think that the real question you have to ask is, "Which team gives him the best shot at multiple titles?" Cleveland is an old team with old talent. NY is a young team with LOTS of young talent. Donnie is really trying to add as much young talent as possible this offseason.