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nycballer · 08-19-2008, 02:22 PM

So begins the Knicks’ Italian Stallion Era, and possibly the end of David Lee…Gallinari’s addition means the Knicks likely will trade Lee this summer for a point guard. Charlotte reportedly is interested, with Raymond Felton. The Knicks nearly dealt Lee to Memphis for their fifth pick, with Walsh saying a deal was “close”…The new regime apparently feels Lee is limited and are hesitant [to] want to give him a lavish contract extension by October because it could hurt their ability to get under the cap in 2010.

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Doing a sign-and-trade involving Delonte West is a possibility, especially since West could be a good fit in the fast-paced offense of new head coach Mike D’Antoni. New York just signed Chris Duhon to a multi-year deal, but West could be a good fit as a shooting guard alongside Duhon. It also offers the Knicks the opportunity to rid themselves of the Stephon Marbury era and start two young guards whose best days could be ahead of them.

Although Ferry is reluctant to give West “Daniel Gibson money” (five years, $21 million), West might get that in New York in a sign-and-trade. West’s status as a “Base Year Player” would also reduce the value of his outgoing salary in sign-and-trades, possibly just enough to do a trade with New York centering around Varejao and Lee.

A potential bad contract that Ferry could take back would be the one of Jared Jeffries, who is signed through 2011 with a player option and is due about $19.5 million until then. Jeffries wouldn’t be completely useless - he could be used as a defender off the bench. But it should be no secret that Jeffries’ main purpose would be to enable the Cavs to swap Varejao with Lee, a move that, combined with the Mo Williams deal, could put the Cavaliers over the top in the East.

For New York, they can use Varejao as a stop-gap for Gallinari as well as a big man off the bench as they bring the Italian along with no expectations of paying Varejao after 2009. That takes $5.7 million off the books for next summer. If West is signed to a Boobie-like deal (or even slightly more), that would be at least $1 million less than what Jeffries is due for 2009-10, shaving a combined $7 million from the cap for the offseason of 2010.

(And don’t worry, Cavs fans - the Knicks have no shot at LeBron. Let them keep dreaming and building up false hope - just like they did during LB’s first contract. The summer of 2010 is a big offseason in general: Yao, Amare, Wade, Bosh, Kobe, etc.)

SOURCE: Cavalier Attitude | MVN - a Cleveland Cavaliers blog � Blog Archive � Report: Cavs talking to Knicks about a big man?

nykfan4life · 08-19-2008, 02:42 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

starks4life · 08-19-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by nykfan4life

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

Calm down. Its ok. The guy who wrote this is just a Cavs fan, and he suggest a whole bunch of stupid trades like Varejo for Lee straight up. It is strictly an opinion piece by a guy with a blog.

RoboNate · 08-19-2008, 05:20 PM

lol knicks will trade lee for a point guard LOL how many do we need?

nykfan4life · 08-19-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by starks4life

Calm down. Its ok. The guy who wrote this is just a Cavs fan, and he suggest a whole bunch of stupid trades like Varejo for Lee straight up. It is strictly an opinion piece by a guy with a blog.

ok, whew

eastflatknick · 08-19-2008, 11:07 PM

I love Delonte West as a player, but his fit with the Knicks is questionable and even more questionable when you'd have to trade Lee for him.

The logic is not sound in this guy's writing...so we don't want to extend Lee for money, but we'd sign and trade him and give West "Daniel Gibson money" which if comparable could be a 5 year deal?

And given his size, and Duhon's size, saying they would be a good fit together, while not even mentioning that we have a bajillion guys who can play SG...is nuts.

08-19-2008, 02:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
nycballer Superstar Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,281	Cavs & Knicks rumor involved Lee for West So begins the Knicks’ Italian Stallion Era, and possibly the end of David Lee…Gallinari’s addition means the Knicks likely will trade Lee this summer for a point guard. Charlotte reportedly is interested, with Raymond Felton. The Knicks nearly dealt Lee to Memphis for their fifth pick, with Walsh saying a deal was “close”…The new regime apparently feels Lee is limited and are hesitant [to] want to give him a lavish contract extension by October because it could hurt their ability to get under the cap in 2010. ╦╩╦╩╦╦╩╦╩╦╦╩╦╩╦╦� �╦╩╦╦╩╦╦╩╦╩╦╦╩╦╩╦� ��╩╦╦╩╦╩╦╦╩╦╩╦╦╩╦╦ ╩╦╩╦╦╩╦╩╦ Doing a sign-and-trade involving Delonte West is a possibility, especially since West could be a good fit in the fast-paced offense of new head coach Mike D’Antoni. New York just signed Chris Duhon to a multi-year deal, but West could be a good fit as a shooting guard alongside Duhon. It also offers the Knicks the opportunity to rid themselves of the Stephon Marbury era and start two young guards whose best days could be ahead of them. Although Ferry is reluctant to give West “Daniel Gibson money” (five years, $21 million), West might get that in New York in a sign-and-trade. West’s status as a “Base Year Player” would also reduce the value of his outgoing salary in sign-and-trades, possibly just enough to do a trade with New York centering around Varejao and Lee. A potential bad contract that Ferry could take back would be the one of Jared Jeffries, who is signed through 2011 with a player option and is due about $19.5 million until then. Jeffries wouldn’t be completely useless - he could be used as a defender off the bench. But it should be no secret that Jeffries’ main purpose would be to enable the Cavs to swap Varejao with Lee, a move that, combined with the Mo Williams deal, could put the Cavaliers over the top in the East. For New York, they can use Varejao as a stop-gap for Gallinari as well as a big man off the bench as they bring the Italian along with no expectations of paying Varejao after 2009. That takes $5.7 million off the books for next summer. If West is signed to a Boobie-like deal (or even slightly more), that would be at least $1 million less than what Jeffries is due for 2009-10, shaving a combined $7 million from the cap for the offseason of 2010. (And don’t worry, Cavs fans - the Knicks have no shot at LeBron. Let them keep dreaming and building up false hope - just like they did during LB’s first contract. The summer of 2010 is a big offseason in general: Yao, Amare, Wade, Bosh, Kobe, etc.) SOURCE: Cavalier Attitude \| MVN - a Cleveland Cavaliers blog � Blog Archive � Report: Cavs talking to Knicks about a big man?

08-19-2008, 05:20 PM	#4 (permalink)
RoboNate Hall of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 7,765	lol knicks will trade lee for a point guard LOL how many do we need? __________________ “He’s scary athletic,” D’Antoni said of Robinson. “Wherever I put him, whatever team I put him on, was the team that was winning.”

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08-19-2008, 11:07 PM	#6 (permalink)
eastflatknick Administrator Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 6,692	I love Delonte West as a player, but his fit with the Knicks is questionable and even more questionable when you'd have to trade Lee for him. The logic is not sound in this guy's writing...so we don't want to extend Lee for money, but we'd sign and trade him and give West "Daniel Gibson money" which if comparable could be a 5 year deal? And given his size, and Duhon's size, saying they would be a good fit together, while not even mentioning that we have a bajillion guys who can play SG...is nuts.

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